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Opinions on best supplements

Post by hperalta on Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:41 am

Folks,
There are so many different types of supplements out there even the best of us can get some what confused. If you have a product that you love, share it with us and what it has done for you.

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Protien

Post by hperalta on Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:03 am

What are the benefits of all these different types of protein?

Whey protein makes up 20% of total milk protein. Whey is recognized for its excellent amino acid profile, high cysteine content, rapid digestion, and interesting variety of peptides.

Casein protein makes up 80% of total milk protein. Casein is recognized for its excellent amino acid profile, slow digestion and interesting variety of peptides. Since casein is slowly digested into your bloodstream, don't use it during workouts or after workouts you need a fast absorbing protein at these times.

Soy protein is the most controversial of all protein types. While the soy groupies have gone to great lengths to label soy as a super food with magical effects, there is also a good amount of research that suggests soy protein may be contraindicated in many situations. Because of all the confusion, I suggest avoiding soy protein altogether and sticking to the other types listed.

Protein Blends are generally a combination of several types of protein blends such as whey protein concentrate, whey protein isolate, egg protein, casein protein, and soy protein. Why would you want a blend anyway? You will receive the full spectrum of proteins and you will receive varying rates of absorption from the different types of protein.

Whey hydrolysates (also known as hydrolyzed whey protein, and are also called peptides), are powerful proteins that are more quickly absorbed; more so than any other form, since your body prefers peptides to whole proteins. Hydrolysates are produced through very low heat, low acid and mild enzymatic filtration processes, (those highest in the essential and the branched chain amino acids) and are potentially the most anabolic for short-term protein synthesis such as 15 minutes prior to a workout, during a workout and immediately after a workout.

Whey Protein Versus Whey Isolate:
Most whey protein powders that stock the supplement shelves are made up of whey concentrate and mixed in with a small portion of whey isolate. Comparing the two, whey protein isolate is more expensive than whey protein concentrate because it has a higher quality (more pure) and a higher BV (biological value). Whey protein isolate contains more protein and less fat and lactose per serving. Most whey protein isolates contain 90-98% protein while whey concentrates contain 70-85% protein.
Whey protein isolate is the highest yield of protein currently available that comes from milk. Because of its chemical properties it is the easiest to absorb into your system. Obviously with its high concentration, it appears that an isolate protein would be the obvious choice instead of a concentrate. However, this is an individual decision because the isolate is more expensive, and just because it is purer does not guarantee that it will help build bigger muscles. Its extra concentration may not justify its extra cost.

IMHO (In My Humble Opinion)
The best thing to do is to buy Casein & Whey and mix them together. This will give you the quick absorbtion that you need for fix 1st thing in the morning and post-workout but the added benifit of having slower absorbtion in between meals so your body always has something to repair with. I normaly mix 40 grams of Whey and 20 grams of Casein except for bed time when I just do the opposite.

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ECA Stack

Post by hperalta on Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:37 pm

The ECA stack is a popular drug combination, which is used as an energy booster and for weight loss. ECA is an acronym for ephedrine, caffeine and aspirin.

Ephedrine is the main ingredient in the stack for both fat burning and energy enhancing. Although its very effective on its own, combining it with caffeine makes it even more so. How effective is it? When used properly and can greatly speed up the fat burning process and youll loose those unwanted pounds. But before you go out and buy ECA stack there are a few things you need to know about.
Along with fat burning ephedrine will attempt to burn off your hard earned muscle as well. The best way of combating this fat loss is to supplement with protein throughout the day not just once or twice a day, as is usually the case.

Ephedrine also acts as an appetite suppressant. How this works is not fully understood, but this aids in weight loss also. Unfortunately, these effects only last for a couple of weeks if the stack isnt cycled because the body becomes tolerant of ephedrine to some extent.
Ephedrine acts to increase energy by acting on the brain to increase the release of nonadrenaline into the synaptic cleft, and also works as a nonadrenaline reuptake inhibitor due to the shared action between the two terminals.

In most cases the ECA stack is taken two or three times daily in a 1:10:10 or 1:10:15 ratio of ephedrine: caffeine: aspirin. These ratios vary across studies and across users, but in spite of the differences they seem to be effective. No more than 25mg of ephedrine, 200mg of caffeine and 325 mg of aspirin should be taken in a single dose and because ECA stack can contribute to insomnia it should not be taken past late afternoon.


You can get this stuff separately very cheap less then $50 for a 3 month supply.

1 NoDose pill supplies the caffeine
1 normal Aspirin supplies the Aspirin requirement.
Ephedrine can be found on the net

I personally take it only once a day about 20 min before my workout on an empty stomach for best effects and to minimize the possibility of caffeine addiction. By empty I mean at least 2 hours after my last meal or shake.

DO NOT TAKE THIS IF YOU HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE OR HEART PROBLEMS.

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Re: Opinions on best supplements

Post by Meister on Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:17 pm

hperalta wrote:What are the benefits of all these different types of protein?


Casein protein makes up 80% of total milk protein. Casein is recognized for its excellent amino acid profile, slow digestion and interesting variety of peptides. Since casein is slowly digested into your bloodstream, don't use it during workouts or after workouts you need a fast absorbing protein at these times.


Also, Casomorphin is derived from the digestion of Casein Proteins.

Casomorphin is an Opioid.

This means that cheese is addictive the same way Morphine is addictive, except with weaker content.

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Re: Opinions on best supplements

Post by hperalta on Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:32 pm

LOL good one. But in case you were serious..........

Casomorphin is a particular type of peptide, i.e protein fragment, that can be derived from the digestion of casein proteins in milk and milk products. The distinguishing characteristics of casomorphins are that they have opioid effects. Casomorphins' effects range from weak to strong, and some peptides may increase the strength of these effects.[citation needed]
The most important casomorphins from bovine milk are those released from the digestion of β-casein into β-casomorphins, sometimes denoted as BCM followed by a numeral indicating the number of amino acids in the sequence. Notably, BCM7 has been implicated in a number of medical conditions, including diabetes, heart disease, and symptoms of autism and schizophrenia[citation needed]. However, it appears that only some individuals are susceptible.[citation needed]
In cattle, the amount of β-casein, and hence the potential release of β-casomorphins, varies between species and breeds. Typically, beta-casein comprises about one third of the casein in milk, or about 12 grams per litre of milk. However, there are at least 13 different variants of the β-casein protein in cattle population, with any one cow producing milk that will contain either one or two of these 13 variants.
Each variant fits into one of two main categories known as A1 and A2. In cattle, A1-type β-caseins have the amino acid histidine at position 67 whereas the A2-type β-caseins have the amino acid proline at position 67. Laboratory experiments show that the casomorphin known as BCM7 is only released from the A1-type β-caseins (Jimsmaa and Yoshikawa 1999) (ref Jinsmaa Y, Yoshikawa M, 1999. 'Enzymatic release of neocasomorphin and beta-casomorphinfrom bovine beta-casein', Peptides 20:957-962). The potential release of BCM7 is about 0.4 grams per litre of milk (assuming as above that there are 12g of β-casein per litre).

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Re: Opinions on best supplements

Post by Meister on Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 am

"Cheese is particularly addictive because it contains small amounts of
morphine made in the cow's liver. When the dairy protein breaks apart
in the stomach, it releases the opiate molecules."

http://www.ncbuy.com/news/2003-06-05/1007014.html

hperalta wrote:LOL good one. But in case you were serious..........

Casomorphin is a particular type of peptide,
i.e protein fragment, that can be derived from the digestion of casein
proteins in milk and milk products. The distinguishing characteristics
of casomorphins are that they have opioid effects. Casomorphins' effects range from weak to strong, and some peptides may increase the strength of these effects.[citation needed]

You do know that Morphine is an Opiate, and that Opiates are just the synthetics derived from Opioids.

Opioids are the higher class in that drug catagory. You get Opiates from the Opioids.

So if Casomorphin has Opioid effects, it has weaker Morphine effects.

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Re: Opinions on best supplements

Post by hperalta on Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:40 pm

Yes I know but there are no addictions going to be created from it.

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